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Poster:sundown
Date:September 28th, 2002
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THIS is believed to have been the first post 9/11 tragedy...
(6/25/02)

A despondent FDNY medical technician, overcome by the emotional trauma of sifting through body parts and debris for several months at Ground Zero, ended his ongoing bout with depression by taking his own life, The Post has learned.

Daniel E. Stewart, 27, gave no warning before he hanged himself late Friday night in the basement of his Long Beach, L.I., home, but left behind a harrowing suicide note, sources said.

Stewart, who worked out of Battalion 44 in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn, wrote about the heartache he suffered after hauling body after body from the ruins of the World Trade Center in the weeks following Sept. 11, sources said.

"That definitely took a toll," said paramedic Octavio Collado of Battalion 44.

Stewart, who was single, spent the first 12 days after Sept. 11 removing bodies, Collado said, and continued to toil through the wreckage on his off days well into January.

After that, Stewart went to the site no more than once a week, but the emotional damage was done.

"He was psychologically distraught after seeing the devastation and the lives lost," Collado said.

Voluntary counseling was made available on a 24-hour basis in the months following 9/11, and Stewart sought treatment on at least one occasion, Collado said, but he feels more should have been done.

"There should have been more counseling," he said. "They should have set up mandatory counseling."

Collado said Stewart called him Friday evening, asking to get together and talk, and they arranged to meet on Sunday.

Just two hours later, Stewart took his own life.

"He didn't give me any indication," Collado said. "There weren't any real warning signs."

Craig Garwood, a paramedic and one of Stewart's close friends, said the suicide came as a "total shock."

"As far as we knew, Daniel was OK," Garwood said. "We didn't suspect anything was wrong."

In his three years on the job, Stewart - a big hockey fan who liked surfing and fishing - developed a passion for his work, his colleagues said.

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Poster:sundown
Date:September 27th, 2002
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Mood: crushed

September 27, 2002 -- A veteran firefighter assigned to one of 9/11's hardest-hit FDNY units shot and killed himself yesterday in front of a makeshift shrine he built to friends and colleagues lost in the terror attack, sources said.
Gary Celentani, a member of Squad 288, which lost eight members at the World Trade Center, became the Fire Department's first post-Sept. 11 suicide when he put a rifle to his chest and pulled the trigger at about 6:40 p.m. Wednesday in his basement apartment on 170th Street in Flushing, Queens, sources said.

Cops said they found Celentani's body before a shrine that included the photos of numerous firefighters and a police officer. They also found a suicide note in which Celentani said a recent breakup with his girlfriend drove him to kill himself.

Friends said he also was deeply affected by the recent death of his mother, Mary. "Gary was this big, strong guy, but he was sensitive and loved his friends," said former Capt. John Vigiano, whose sons John, a firefighter, and Joseph, a cop, died in the WTC attack and were close friends of Celentani.

Celentani was a pallbearer at Joseph Vigiano's funeral. The brothers' pictures were among the images that Celentani, who was undergoing department counseling, kept in his shrine.

"I definitely think Sept. 11 affected him, as it affected a lot of young men and women who lost co-workers," Vigiano said.

Vigiano had spoken to the 33-year-old Long Island native last weekend - and Celentani offered to help his late friends' father around the house.

"That was the kind of guy he was," Vigiano said. "Just call him and he'd come over and help you."

Celentani was a city firefighter since 1996, although the FDNY could not immediately determine where he was assigned on Sept. 11, 2001.

In 1999, as a member of Ladder 27, Celentani wielded an extinguisher to knock down a roiling fire in a hallway so his captain could save a woman from a building, according to department records.

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Poster:cetta
Date:September 23rd, 2002
Subject:"America Can't And Won't Hear Europe's Wobblers."
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"London Sunday Times
August 11, 2002
America Can't And Won't Hear Europe's Wobblers
By Andrew Sullivan


This phoney war looks even weirder when you compare the European and American press. In London and Paris, Berlin and Brussels, the papers are full of speculation about war with Iraq: demands that parliament be recalled, rumours of cabinet resignations, polls of George W. Bush's unpopularity among Britons.

But in the imperial capital, thousands of miles away, a strange calm prevails. The Senate has just held hearings on a potential war but the administration says it is not yet ready to give testimony. Congress is in recess. The president has gone to Texas. Many Americans are on vacation. As yet, there is no impassioned, substantive debate and there's little mystery why. Despite the efforts of anti-war newspapers such as The New York Times, polls consistently show that up to 70% of Americans support war. The president has rhetorically committed himself to such an outcome. Privately, nobody close to the administration doubts it will take place - probably this winter. Americans are not blithe about it: their sons and daughters will die. But neither will they ignore a threat to the West as dangerous as any we have faced.

The American response to European resistance is best summed up by a slightly impatient sigh. If Europeans opposed even the war in Afghanistan, what chance is there they will support war against Iraq? Americans have seen it before. They'll see it again. Meanwhile, they have work to do.

But at a deeper and more worrying level, it's increasingly true that many Americans simply don't care any more. Moreover, why on earth should Americans care what Europe thinks? Militarily, Europe is a dud and well on the way to becoming a complete irrelevance. Britain apart, Europeans have contributed a minuscule amount of the resources to de-fang (but not yet defeat) Al-Qaeda. They couldn't even prevent genocide in their own continent in the 1990s. Despite September 11, they continue to cut defence spending so savagely that, Britain excepted, they are virtually useless as military allies.

If someone who won't lock his door at night starts complaining about the only cop on the beat, sane people should wonder what has happened to his grip on reality. Does he actually want to be robbed or murdered? Similarly, it is one thing for Europeans to say they are ceding military responsibility to America to maintain international order. It is quite another for Europeans then to object when America takes them at their word. And the need for such order has not gone away in the last decade. It was once impossible to conceive that terrorists could destroy New York, or Rome. But they are on the verge of that capability, and last September proved that they would not hesitate to use it.

The average American therefore feels like asking Europeans: just what about September 11 do you not understand? These fanatics want to kill you and destroy your civilisation.

This must change the prudential equation when it comes to dealing with Saddam. When a tyrant is doing all he can to get biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, has invaded a neighbouring state, used chemical weapons on his own people, subsidises terror elsewhere in the Middle East and has ties to Islamist terrorist groups around the world - doesn't the benefit of the doubt shift towards those who would dethrone him? And doesn't the mass grave of 3,000 people in New York tilt the equation a little? This is the core of Americans' puzzlement about not just European vacillation but its opposition to taking on Saddam. When religious leaders argue that the US is more morally troubling than a butcher like Saddam, you know the forces of appeasement are as powerful today as in the 1970s, when faced with Soviet evil, and the 1930s when faced with Nazi evil.

If it were not for America, Al-Qaeda, with support from Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Hamas, would be ensconced in Afghanistan planning more attacks on the West. Yet the European response to the mission has been increased criticism.

In National Review, a conservative magazine, Victor Davis Hanson sums up a common American view of European complainers: "Iraq? Stay put - we don't necessarily need or desire your help. The Middle East? Shame on you, not us, for financing the terrorists on the West Bank. The Palestinian Authority and Israel? You helped fund a terrorist clique; we, a democracy - go figure.

Racism? Arabs are safer in America than Jews are in Europe. That 200,000 were butchered in Bosnia and Kosovo a few hours from Rome and Berlin is a stain on you, the inactive, not us, the interventionist. Capital punishment? Our government has executed terrorists; yours have freed them. Do the moral calculus."

Israel, of course, plays a central role in this divide. It is almost a given in the European media that Israel is the immoral protagonist. The fact that it is a democracy, and there is not one democracy in the Arab world, is ignored, as is the fact that Israel exists in part because of Europe's legacy of genocidal anti-semitism.

The incidental killing of civilians during Israel's acts of military self-defence are seen as morally equivalent to the deliberate targeting of civilians by Palestinian bombers. And the routine hatred of Jews, an anti-semitism that is now a key part of the ideology of the Arab states, is simply ignored, or downplayed.

We're not anti-semitic, Europeans say, we're anti-Israel. But while the slightest infraction of civilised norms by Israel is trumpeted, the routine torture, despotism and corruption that is the norm among its neighbours barely gains a column inch. There are, of course, deeper reasons for Europe's aversion to American power. By unilaterally disarming itself, Europe makes a statement about how the world should be governed: by diplomacy, international agreements, pooled sovereignty. The way that old enemies like France and Germany co-operate is regarded as morally and strategically superior to America's defence of sovereignty and military force.

But the only reason the European Union can exist is because American military force defeated the Nazis. All of Germany is part of the EU only because American military might defeated the Soviet Union. Europhiles mistake the fruits of real politik with its abolition. They don't realise that the only guarantor of European peace is American force. Europeans should pray for it in order to save their own political achievement. Europeans may believe that national interest is a thing of the past and military power an anachronism. Within the confines of a few European countries, they may be right. But in the wider world, especially the Middle East, history hasn't ended and a new threat to world peace is rising. If Europeans believe it can be palliated by diplomacy or appeasement, they are misreading their own times as profoundly as they did in the 1930s.

America, in contrast, has no option but to tackle this threat, or face destruction at its hand. The longer America takes to do so, the greater the costs will be. The question for European leaders is not whether they want to back America, but whether they want to be adult players in a new and dangerous world.

Grow up and join in - or pipe down and let us do it. That's the message America is sending. It's a message long, long overdue."

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Poster:udswinger
Date:September 17th, 2002
Subject:i know this is a little late in posting but hey...I'm allowed...
Security:Public
Mood: calm

I've talked a lot these past few weeks about how much our nation is coming together....well I just wanted to show everyone how much our community here at UD has grown this past 9/11...here's a comparison....now you can see what I'm about....last year

last year

This year: on the Green infront of Mememorial Hall and the library would be to the left closest to you...in this picture you can't really see me...but I'm in the bottom right corner sitting...(in the first picture)



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Poster:candylandqueen
Date:September 16th, 2002
Subject:A Friend Told Me This..
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Mood: good

Hi Shelly I want you to listen for a sec ..You cant live your life afraid of the evils of the world, You are an American be proud of what you are remember what happened learn from it.
Then go on and be what you are an American girl living in the greatest country in the world,have fun, have love, and enjoy the the best life you can have anywhere..........+

LIVE FREE OR DIE

~SSJamin1

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Poster:rjectedpornie
Date:September 16th, 2002
Subject:It's sad but get a reality check.
Security:Public
Mood:sdsd

September 11th was a tragic day, no doubt about that in my mind, but that's not all that day was about. Sometimes I think about the people who were in the towers and a plane just goes into their window. It's like it's not fair, but It was honestly their time to die, and if they didn't die september 11th they would have died some where in the near future. But we as a country are selfish. I don't think many americans know that. ONCE we got hit, once 3,000 people die, everyday 3,000 people die in other places, do we care? We we send money do we cry? No? It's all the government's fault. We pay for their mistakes, everything they do wrong we get killed for. America always has to stick their noses where it does belong. Why are we worrying about jews and arabs when we can't even get all the crack babies and poor people off our streets? Does it make sense? Then three years later we vote the same people. America swears that they are so tough and bad, but there are several terrorist that american probably doesn't worry about. They stay focused on one thing and pay no mind to anything else, that's how people hijacked planes, and that's why so many of our families are dead and gone forever. We represent a country who is heartless to others, and we want love towards us, just becase only, around 3,000 people died. We need to realize that this was a reality check, we can not depend on american, we have to look for ourselves, this is life, and America for isn't protecting us. I am done. You send all the hate replies.. I am waiting.

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Poster:cetta
Date:September 14th, 2002
Subject:NOTICE:
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hi everyone. this is cheri_baby. i have a new journal and i just thought i'd let you know. this community isn't under new ownership. the owner just has a new lj.

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Poster:sundown
Date:September 13th, 2002
Subject:from a firefighter's perspective...
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you may also want to view the_bravest to see how we in public safety remembered....

before i write about how i spent 9/11, i wanted to talk about something that i noticed in passing while reviewing the entries on my friends list....with the exception of the_bravest, only perhaps one or two other people even made mention of having done anything in rememberance or observance of the events of 9/11. this is terribly distressing for me, and it should be for you, too. granted, i realize that people in public service are perhaps taking the day a little harder than the general public, but it's only because it could have been any firefighter, officer or paramedic that day, in that city, doing that job, which cost so many public servants their lives. it wasnt for fame, notariety, and god knows it wasn't for fortune. it was because there were people in trouble, and they needed help. we in public safety also felt the call, thus why firefighters from as far away as san fransisco came to lend assistance. regardless of what patch is sewn on to our uniforms, we are all brothers and sisters in the end, sworn to a common cause...to protect the public. you the public, whether you admit or not, treat civil servants like absolute trash. you call peace officers 'pigs'. you call firefighters 'axe welding cavemen'. yet you cry and whine when you find the slightest imperfection, and insist we are 'only' doing our jobs when we risk our lives to protect you, a person we've never met. so if not to remember the senseless loss of life that day, you, as a responsible citizen of your community, owe it to us in public safety to pause for a moment, or attend a service at a public safety memorial for us. we don't want your cookies, your cakes, or the media to sweat our nuts. we want you, john and jane public, to offer a heartfelt, unpublicized, unpoliticized, thank you...if you can't take time out of your ham-n-egger life to do that little thing, that makes you a pretty fucking lousy human being, and you aren't worth my time when your house catches fire, you pass out drunk, your kid falls on his head, or your stomach ache is suddenly an emergency at 3am. that said....

arrived in cincinnati around 5pm on the 10th and checked into the hotel. rested for a bit, then met shannan and brian for dinner at bravo's in mason....was good to see shannan again, and brian turned out to be a delightful fellow. shannan gave me bogus directions to get from my hotel to the resteraunt; wrong turn off 275, so she drew a map on our table to show me...(table was lined with butcher paper for drawing, complete with crayons). returned to the hotel for a quick nap, and caught a bit of report from ground zero on abc. before i left columbus, i learned that cincinnati's iaff local 48 would be having a ceremony at the union fire memorial near 6th & central, including a honor guard posting from midnight on 9/11 to midnight on 9/12. after waking up an engine crew in quarters for directions, i arrived at the memorial just as the first honor guard was taking their post. i don't think i've seen a more emotional memorial ever. the memorial itself is a poreclain statue of a firefighter in turnout standing watch, beneath him is a granite stone with the firefighter's prayer. on the lawn surrounding the memorial, local 48's members had placed 343 white wooden crosses, each with the name of an fdny member lost that day. perhaps the most emotional sight of the night was of the crosses bearing the name joseph angelini, one senior from rescue1, one junior from ladder4...a father and his son...headed back to the hotel- went to bed around 2am; finally fell asleep around 4 after some tossing and turning....

woke up around 6 to get dressed and emotionally prepare for the day ahead...quick breakfast at burger king, then headed to loveland-symmes for the first service of the day. we met at castle skateland and formed into line. there were perhaps 300 uniformed personnel marching, and another 10 or so fully staffed trucks, so a pretty good turnout...i marched along side a norfolk & southern railways officer based in cincinnati...very pleasant fellow...he told me of his agencies lengendary battles with the capone clan during chicago's prohibition era...the procession was around two miles long, and passed by several schools, most of whose kids clapped for us as we walked by. we also each had an american flag bearing the name of a member of the nypd, papd, or fdny lost that day. we arrived at the loveland-symmes memorial site and heard words of encouragement from lsfd battalion chief billy goldfeder, a native of long island, and honorary battalion chief of fdny. he told us the story of the ielpi family...lee, a retired jake from rescue 2, his son john from squad288, and another son, jimmy, from ladder 157. lee and jimmy worked daily to bring john home, until he was found in march of this year...a Lt. from engine 206 and a firefighter from engine 294 also spoke, along with state fire marshall robert rielage. also honored was usar ohio task force I,who worked at ground zero several weeks...i decided not to listen to the politicians speak, so l went back to the hotel to rest for a bit...


woke up around 3:30, and drove to the local 48 union memorial again, where i was met by members, including the union local president, who invited me to march with them at 7:30; i gladly accepted...met with them for a beer at a local hangout in fountain square, then drove to the northern kentucky convention center in covington, where about 400 tri-state area firefighters and paramedics and their families were lining up for a 2 mile procession which would take us to the covington fallen peave officers memorial, across the cincinnati suspension bridge which crossed the ohio river, then up 3rd street to local 48's memorial, then to fountain square for a televised memorial. we were again led by the hamilton county fife and drums, but also by three other pipe and drum cores and about half a dozen honor guards from local police and fire agencies...we walked under a giant us flag held up by covington fire's truck 1 and hebron's tower 360, just before we came across the suspension bridge...it was one of the most breathtaking thing i had ever seen; the cincinnati skyline with an american flag proudly waving in front...the flag caught a breeze and almost extended a hand to us as we came across the bridge. when we came off the bridge, we walked under another flag, held by two cincinnati truck companies, then down pete rose way to paul brown stadium, then up 3rd street. downtown traffic stopped as the fife and drummers played proudly...after we marched by the local48 memorial, we went by cincinnati's main station which houses an engine, truck, rescue, district chief and medic...i nearly cried to see each rig pulled out onto the ramp, lights flashing and sirens blaring with each firefighter and officer at attention, just as each member was at the four trucks we passed on either side of the bridge. when we finally made it to fountain square, the sea of people parted as each uniformed member came to the forefront for the service....a cincinnati firefighter sang america the beautiful and the hamilton co sheriff fife and drum played amazing grace, which brought me to tears as we all saluted at attention...even saw a little baby with his father's class A hat on saluting his little hand...thats what our service means to me.

lest we forget our fallen....

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Poster:envisi0ning
Date:September 12th, 2002
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Were still alive!!! Yay!!!

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Poster:udswinger
Date:September 12th, 2002
Subject:a nation remembers....as do I
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Mood: okay

I will never forget that day that I lost my cousin...

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Poster:baseballchica03
Date:September 12th, 2002
Subject:I thought the first pilot was drunk.
Security:Public
Mood: contemplative

Is it bad that I avoided the television and radio almost all day yesterday? I listened to Shredd and Ragan (a local Buffalo radio program, a little like Opie and Anthony but they don't go quite as far) in the morning because they pretty much had their regular show. I was actually successful until I got home and had to watch the news. (My local baseball team is in teh playoffs, and I wanted to find out how they were doing, or else I wouldn't have watched it. But I digress...)

So, anyway, I avoided television as best I could, but it's really hard to hide from technology. Every single channel devoted THE ENTIRE DAY to what happened. Every single webpage I looked at had a flag or an image of some sort. It was the headline in all of the papers I looked at (not to mention a great deal of the weekly magazines, too). It was as if nothing else happened in the world yesterday. (Side note: Or for the rest of last year, for that matter. Do you realize that last year was the sixtieth anniversary of Pearl Harbor? Did you notice that it was barely mentioned because it was almost three months since September? Just because some new horror comes along doesn't mean that the old one wasn't horrible, too.) I realize that it was a huge catastrope, a horribly sad event. But there are only so many times that you can show it on television. And there is only so much that can be said. After that, it's too much to absorb. Last year, I spent three weeks glued to the television set, the radio, poring over every section of the newspaper like you wouldn't believe. Then, my briain shorted out. I didn't watch the news for a good two months or so. I didn't read the paper until a couple of weeks before I left for Sweden. I'm a political science major, and I cut myself off from information about the world. There's only so much you can take before it all becomes a jumble of words and everything you're trying so hard to say becomes meaningless, which defeats the whole purpose of what everyone was trying to do yesterday.

On a related note (and you can NOT tell me that this isn't related to what happened), I heard the most disturbing ad on the radio this morning. Did any of you listen to Shredd and Ragan this morning and hear the ad done by Chuck Norris? I was looking on the website, but there is no information about the sponsors for me to link you to, so I'll just have to tell you about it. Chuck Norris starts talking (with some sort of patriotic music in the background) about illegal immigrants and how they're infiltrating our country and the US government wants YOU to join the fight. Study criminal justice! Apply for a job with INS! It's your patriotic duty to keep them foreigners out!

Ok, so maybe I'm exaggerating just a little. But it seriously was an ad trying to get people to work for the INS. Does that not disturb anyone else, even a little? I mean, I realize that illegal immigration is a big problem in the US, but it has to be dealt with much more carefully than getting a bunch of gung ho, young, pissed off xenophobes together, giving them guns and a badge, and letting them loose on the community! I realize that something needs to be done, but PLEASE! It sounded like a WWII ad to join the military!! Have we NO dignity whatsoever?

I understand that my views are not very popular and are not the views of everyone. I can deal with that. Feel free to bitch at me. Comment all you want, just don't swear, dont threaten, and don't say I that I can't understand. (I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with it.) Be civil about it, ok?

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Poster:widjet
Date:September 12th, 2002
Subject:ok about 9/11
Security:Public
Mood:indescribable

ok this is a post that i made in my LJ that i would like to share with as many people as i can...i want toget input from AS MANY people as possible....YOUR input WOULD BE GREATLY appreciated...whether it be positive or negative to what i had to say....thank you now for taking the time to read this so far....ALSO please post response in My LJ not in here (or in both) the address to my LJ is http://www.livejournal.com/users/widjet/

Hmmm....were should i start....today is the big day...one year after the first foreign terrorist attack on US soil....My question is what makes this soo special....just because this is the united states or americans doesn't make us untouchable or a better human being...why should the attacks on the world trade center beheld in ANY higher regard than say an attack say a bus bombing in jerusalem or a genocidal rampage by some tyranical warlord in a north african country...it shouldn't...i'm not saying that they shouldn't be mourned or remember...i'm just saying should a monument be erected or a holiday be declared because of it...no..i think that is over kill...i can understand a prayer..or even a moment of silence in rememberance...but running playbacks of the plane crashes and stuff on tv and hearing nothing but commentary about it on the radio FOR THE ENTIRE DAY...that is ridiculus...i understand 3,000+ people died but why are we turning them into matyrs of sorts for the cause of anti-terroism...there was nothing special about it other than that it was on a very grand scale....I know i will get some negative responses to this post but i expected that and welcome the input.....that would be wrong to not want contrary feedback....but i also know that there are people that WILL agree with me...so please post with LJ names...stand up for what you believe in....

Again Thank you for readingthe Entry and ifyou feel like commenting pleast post it http://www.livejournal.com/talkpost.bml?journal=widjet&itemid=47411 and in here but at least in the above link....THANK YOU....

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Poster:candylandqueen
Date:September 11th, 2002
Subject:Hello.
Security:Public
Mood: morose

Hello. I just joined this. I was amazed to find this community. My name is Shelly and I am 13 years old. I live in California. I hope that this communtity will remain active after today. I have AIM and my user name for it is pumpkindust02. You may IM me if you want to talk about it with me. It's 9-11-02. One year since the horrible attack on America. Just watching the re-runs of the planes crashing into the buildings, pictures of the WTC before and what remains in what we call Ground Zero. Even though I knew no one who was killed, it still makes me sad. My dad says I have a good heart. I cry for those who lost loved ones, those who were killed, and the brave men who went to fight in the terrorist war. I remember the morning of 9-11-01 very clearly. It was a school day. I woke up unusally early for a school day. My dad said maybe I felt it in my heart. I went out to my dad and watched the news or maybe I told him to turn on the news. Who knows. My dad and I saw the first plane crash into the first tower. During that time I remember that there was also a fire in the washington mall. Of course I was terrified and I believed that the terrorists would attack anywhere with alot of people, including school. My dad made me and my little brother stay home from school that day due to that fact. That day I was online at Neopets talking to people, and I had the TV on behind me watching CNN non-stop. The next day I was terrorfied to even go to school let alone outside. I was afraid of planes too. When the planes were allowed back up to flight, I was at melissa's until 9 at night looking at the sky watching the planes wondering where they were going. We counted the planes that we saw flying. Since the attack I have been more American. Today at school at 9:11 AM we had a moment of silence to honor those who died and those who faught and those who lost someone. Everyone in the school was silent. It is a very depressing day for America esp. for those who lost someone on 9-11. Those who lived in new york who had a view of the towers no longer do. All they see is a wide open space called Ground Zero. At lunch we sang songs about America out of respect and to honor those who perished in the attacks. Bush is a great man. He has been walking around ground zero for 2 hours talking to everyone, hugging, kissing, holding little kids for ever and just listening to them. He may not be a good politition but he is a good human. He has a great big heart. God Bless you all.

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Poster:cheri_baby
Date:September 11th, 2002
Subject:i don't know WHAT to make of this.
Security:Public

Sassie227: ok my friend`s mom`s friend`s mom was in ny and

Sassie227: she was at a gas station. and she saw an arab

Sassie227: lookin person and he didn`t have enough money so

Sassie227: she gave him some and he was like " why did u

Sassie227: give me this ?" and she said " i want to help a

Sassie227: fellow american" and then he was like"ok i will

Sassie227: help one too. don`t drink coke after 9/11 "

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Poster:cheri_baby
Date:September 11th, 2002
Subject:hmmmm
Security:Public

interesting logCollapse )

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Poster:frozenrose15
Date:September 11th, 2002
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Mood: irate

anti-american who live in america...people are going to believe what they wanna, but if those individuals hate america so much ...they should leave...i mean i hate it when people that were born and raised in the US say that it sucks and they hate it and the everyone and thing in the US should be blown to bits and what not...if they really belive that...they should get up, get their US moneys and move to another part of the world...see how much they like it there. bbecause not many countries are anywhere near on par with the US...yet we're one of the most hated nation, if not THE most hated because we're on top and have freedom and all that jazz...sick bastards


As far as people outside of US citizens hating the US..well...That's (probably) because they know nothing about the way we live and are most likely very jealous and the like... Like the common people out in Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan (some of this goes for other places aswell)....they only know what their government/extremist leaders LET them know, and i garuntee it's not much, and only what those few in charge want them to know, even if it's not truthful.
i feel bad for the children that are being forced to hate what they know nothing about. the women that are conditioned from early childhood to be subservient to all men. There is NO excuse for the things those extremist men make themselves and the people around them live. And just because that's the way they live and have lived for a very very long time does NOT make it acceptable.

If these people hate america so much for being pretty successful (even though we're not perfect or anywhere near it) then why can't they just leave the US be and do their own thing? I think that would be a much better option than having many people on both sides of this die in vain.

any of that make sense???

UGH! i have more to say, but I'm too emotionally Taxed to say it at the moment....i'll continue my rant at another point in time, if at all.

oh and another thing- i'm aware of the problems and injustices in the rest of the world and i have my compassion for them...but the united states CAN NOT put a bandaid on every country for every on the friggin planet, nor are we obligated to, just because we happen to be more powerful, with the better economics goin'. Yes I think we should help if there are major problems, but we have our own difficulties in this country that need to be attended to BEFORE we can go save other struggling/failing nations


Thanks for reading this and please respond...

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Poster:cheri_baby
Date:September 11th, 2002
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i was in the chat room "God Bless America" that i made, and a fight broke out. read: ( btw, i'm tristful )

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Poster:cheri_baby
Date:September 11th, 2002
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i was in the chat room "God Bless America" and someone said ----

Herzeleid: of god this is cheesy

Tristful: shhh

OnlineHost: A46Gem has entered the room.

B 1 a c: "oh god", maybe?

A46Gem: sup h0ar

Tristful: hi kairu

A46Gem: - kairu

Herzeleid: fuck america.

B 1 a c: hey kariu.

A46Gem: hey cheri

Tristful: hey strawberry

Herzeleid: hi.

Tristful: if you feel that way

Tristful: you can leave

Tristful: --->

A46Gem: umm. cheri, sry, but america sucks.

Herzeleid: fine.

OnlineHost: Herzeleid has left the room.

B 1 a c: kariu, where ya' been?

A46Gem: i lost my computer. on my aunt's computer and my grandpa's sn right now.

Tristful: i'm sorry you feel that way kairu

A46Gem: it's ok cheri

Tristful: but you're wrong

A46Gem: i'll get my computer back soon, but i'll only have aim

Tristful: oh

Tristful: i wasnt talking about your computer

OnlineHost: LeSoapBox has entered the room.

A46Gem: i know

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Poster:cyberstick7
Date:September 11th, 2002
Subject:Brothers and Sisters....
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Mood: gloomy

All I hope for, is that someone can take something from this....My account of Sept. 11, 2001.

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Poster:djryanla
Date:September 11th, 2002
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Mood: nostalgic

I decided to put together a list of things seen around LiveJournal on September 11, 2001. I hope it makes us all remember that day and, hopefully, helps us all just a bit.

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